tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post4211648442372620361..comments2023-09-02T09:36:56.716-07:00Comments on Cause I Believe in You: How Shall Beauty Be Named?Cheriehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-85232232298393276082007-08-07T17:38:00.000-07:002007-08-07T17:38:00.000-07:00Good, Cecily! There is no shame in loving makeup, ...Good, Cecily! There is no shame in loving makeup, especially someone as level-headed as you. You have found a good balance. <BR/><BR/>I have never been to Australia, but have heard and read that the women there are more outgoing, more relaxed, less vain, less into their looks - or as you said so well, fake.<BR/><BR/>Here, well, it's like an epidemic. Really really weird.Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-2637540063844579852007-08-07T17:17:00.000-07:002007-08-07T17:17:00.000-07:00I confess that I love makeup. Unashamedly! ;)I'm ...I confess that I love makeup. Unashamedly! ;)<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure if the climate is slightly different here - I don't think the average woman is quite as fake in Australia. I can safely say I am not even tempted on the cosmetic surgery. And on the hairdying - well I refuse to spend money on it when people in other parts of the world are starving, so that usually saves me giving in to the cecilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12944264862462890029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-77840177055908429042007-08-03T11:37:00.000-07:002007-08-03T11:37:00.000-07:00I'm back.....showed the films to the girls. So gla...I'm back.....showed the films to the girls. So glad they are sensible children, my girls, and grateful to have friends like you guys, and resources like this Dove campaign to back us up. This is the start of a new way of defining beauty. It's about time!Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-33823022050102704662007-08-03T11:30:00.000-07:002007-08-03T11:30:00.000-07:00Hey thanks, WC. Going there now.Hey thanks, WC. Going there now.Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-26069919990333640062007-08-03T09:14:00.000-07:002007-08-03T09:14:00.000-07:00Liz & Cherie: I have seen the Dove Campaign for R...Liz & Cherie: I have seen the Dove Campaign for Real Beauty ads here in Canad and they are really, really good. There is a web site, too: <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com/" REL="nofollow">US</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.ca/flat2.asp?id=6960" REL="nofollow">Canada</A>Wandering Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478039463695542535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-74856778565235382422007-08-01T22:12:00.000-07:002007-08-01T22:12:00.000-07:00And there we have a definitive conclusion from tsh...And there we have a definitive conclusion from tshs!! Thanks for that! And good for you for being an exposer, too. I've had the same sort of conversations with men, with the same results as you. Women need to know this. The sad thing is that not only do women go along with the Wizard for men, they do it for other women's approval, that peer pressure, acceptance. Who needs it? We need to let our Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-62636170650427898702007-08-01T16:12:00.000-07:002007-08-01T16:12:00.000-07:00BTW, since I began my polling, L has started addin...BTW, since I began my polling, L has started adding up the money I've saved us over the years by not buying makeup, hair dye, manicures, 200 pairs of shoes, designer clothing, and a purse to match every outfit. He has now acquired a whole new respect for me!tshsmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637635755654078408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-6007377581679574762007-08-01T16:05:00.000-07:002007-08-01T16:05:00.000-07:00I "exposed the Wizard" a long time ago. Make-up, ...I "exposed the Wizard" a long time ago. Make-up, designer clothes, and weekly hair styling is not my thing.<BR/><BR/>The last couple of years, I've been conducting polls among the men I know. Guess what? Guys really aren't interested in manicured, superbly coiffed, designer handbag women. What REALLY interests men is a woman who shares their interests and lifestyle. <BR/>Sure, men will ogle tshsmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637635755654078408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-64893558092545235392007-08-01T15:13:00.000-07:002007-08-01T15:13:00.000-07:00Liz, we do have Dove beauty products here, but I h...Liz, we do have Dove beauty products here, but I haven't been paying attention to their ads or campaigns. I will now. This is definitely encouraging news!<BR/><BR/>You are good to address this subject with youth groups since they are one of the main targets of advertisers and Hollywood. <BR/><BR/>You are welcome! Thank <I>you</I> for the comment.Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-1599404357950677122007-08-01T14:37:00.000-07:002007-08-01T14:37:00.000-07:00Cherie, don't know if you are familiar with dove b...Cherie, don't know if you are familiar with dove beauty products over there. But, in the UK, they've mounted a wonderful real beauty campaign, targetting young folk and exposing the beauty ads for the sham they are. their emphasis is on building up self esteem and not being taken in by the publicity drivel. I've used it with a couple of youth groups and its gone down well. thankfully some folk liz crumlishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17261486774607168533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-79214260877259509432007-08-01T09:29:00.000-07:002007-08-01T09:29:00.000-07:00Hey Pam, long time no read! I'll be watching for y...Hey Pam, long time no read! <BR/><BR/>I'll be watching for you on the catwalk.<BR/><BR/>; DCheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-34548215313921009712007-08-01T09:28:00.000-07:002007-08-01T09:28:00.000-07:00And Leisel, it does my heart good to hear that you...And Leisel, it does my heart good to hear that you have been encouraged. I imagine a conversation with you about this topic would be very enlightening, very interesting, given where you work. You are welcome, and thanks for encouraging <I>me</I>.Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-14259367747108441502007-08-01T08:57:00.000-07:002007-08-01T08:57:00.000-07:00I love Naomi Wolf's perspective. At the rate I'm g...I love Naomi Wolf's perspective. At the rate I'm going, I'll be too sexy for my face very soon!Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849049336673963342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-8546139586347537892007-07-31T18:11:00.000-07:002007-07-31T18:11:00.000-07:00It has been a long time since this topic has been ...It has been a long time since this topic has been addressed in my life...meanwhile I'm surrounded by the fake, fashionable and famous. It does my heart better than you can imagine to have this reminder. Thank you Cherie. Thank you for all your wise, touching posts.Deadmanshondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855601049958269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-74882525402957824872007-07-31T17:55:00.000-07:002007-07-31T17:55:00.000-07:00I, too, understand the pressure that propels women...I, too, understand the pressure that propels women to surgically alter themselves, Des. It's a pretty sad indictment on our society, isn't it, that women feel they must cut themselves up, stitch themselves up, plump, smooth, suck-out, and lift themselves up in order to feel acceptable or beautiful.<BR/><BR/>Something is wrong with that thinking.<BR/><BR/>And, to me, it is heartbreakingly sad.<BR/Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-6412208185785274802007-07-31T12:05:00.000-07:002007-07-31T12:05:00.000-07:00It is sad that we feel the need to change ourselve...It is sad that we feel the need to change ourselves in order to feel beautiful. Although I could never see myself getting any sort of reconstructive surgery, I understand those who chose to do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-9672391835074210802007-07-31T09:38:00.000-07:002007-07-31T09:38:00.000-07:00Cherie said...Right you are WC. Thanks for your in...Cherie said...<BR/>Right you are WC. Thanks for your input.<BR/><BR/>I have make-up, too, and wear it for special occassions as you and M. do. Day to day, though, too much bother. <BR/><BR/>The thing that gets me is that so many women wear it ALL THE TIME. I don't get it. I know a woman, a pretty young gal around 20, who takes 2 hours to do her hair and make-up every morning. Can you even imagineCheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-18017107325978821602007-07-31T09:11:00.000-07:002007-07-31T09:11:00.000-07:00Damn fine post, Cherie. So glad you are getting a...Damn fine post, Cherie. So glad you are getting a lot from the book. I think it's one of the most important books that's ever been published, and as I said on my blog, I think it should be required reading for all girls AND boys coming into pubescence. Just like I think her book "Misconceptions" should be required reading for every woman of child-bearing age. The Beauty Myth has had a profoundWandering Coyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01478039463695542535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-48751699615234603052007-07-31T08:37:00.000-07:002007-07-31T08:37:00.000-07:00Thank you Annie and Ann, for your comments and enc...Thank you Annie and Ann, for your comments and encouragement! I appreciate it.Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-32359425257502876712007-07-31T07:00:00.000-07:002007-07-31T07:00:00.000-07:00Refreshing, cleansing words, Cherie. Thanks for p...Refreshing, cleansing words, Cherie. Thanks for putting it all together.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17268632905719873969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-76587840921674832272007-07-30T19:43:00.000-07:002007-07-30T19:43:00.000-07:00Great post Cherie! The catfish comparison with the...Great post Cherie! The catfish comparison with the picture made me laugh because that is exactly what those collagen lips look like. A catfish! Funny. And you are right it is sad and it is time we ask the hard questions.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for a another current relevant post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-2381920943595925112007-07-30T19:01:00.000-07:002007-07-30T19:01:00.000-07:00Good thoughts, Deanna. "Hyper-attuned." Boy, isn't...Good thoughts, Deanna. "Hyper-attuned." Boy, isn't <I>that</I> the truth.<BR/><BR/>I've never bought into the hype, but there is always a pull that, unless one examines things, gets the better of a person even subconsciously. <BR/><BR/>You can find yourself going along, just flowing along, without realizing you're in over your head and doing it like everyone else or trying to, even if it really Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-17643055103789153722007-07-30T17:52:00.000-07:002007-07-30T17:52:00.000-07:00You are simply coming of age, dear Cherie, in magn...You are simply coming of age, dear Cherie, in magnificent ways.<BR/><BR/>This is another awesome post.<BR/><BR/>I've struggled through a time of feeling inadequate because my outer shell is doing what it naturally does. I can't make myself be other than I am, and I've never wanted to. But we're hyper-attuned in this society, men and women, to the look that is fleeting and God-given in our deannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16352855975153416194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-86971240334820752332007-07-30T16:25:00.000-07:002007-07-30T16:25:00.000-07:00Birds of a feather, you and me, M. Same here, but ...Birds of a feather, you and me, M. Same here, but 51 years. Think of the money we've saved!!Cheriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089859839673632529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20754923.post-70824093644237367242007-07-30T15:59:00.000-07:002007-07-30T15:59:00.000-07:00Amen. Make-up free for 27 years (save a few speci...Amen. Make-up free for 27 years (save a few special occasions).Marianne Elixirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16394688588187240026noreply@blogger.com